Is this goodbye...........

[klorentz]

Do to things beyond my control we may be going offline for good. To top it all off loosing our home is looking likely within the next 30 days. I can not get into the details here of whats going on but none of it is because of our land lord at least not yet. I want to thank everyone on Idig who have offered their support and advice and most importantly friendship. With all that has been going on these last few months words can not express how thankful I am for all of you here. I do not know what we will do as I have not found work yet. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.We really need a miracle.


Kevin

[Cheesecake]

I will pray for you and your family.
I'm so sorry.
I for once am at a loss for words...and I hardly know you.
But, I wish I could do something for you.
Come back first chance you get.
xoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoox

[klorentz]

I will pray for you and your family.
I'm so sorry.
I for once am at a loss for words...and I hardly know you.
But, I wish I could do something for you.
Come back first chance you get.
xoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoox

Thank you Cheese. It means a great deal. Right now I feel as if my world is caving in around me and I let my family down.

Kevin

[Luvewe]

So sorry for your hard times ;-( Stay strong, I know this sounds trite, and probably doesn't help you much, but things always work out for the best...or at the very least, they 'work out'. You do the best you can, and worry about the things you have control over....the rest... you leave to a higher power...whatever that may be. Luck to you and yours.

Betty

[Cheesecake]

Thank you Cheese. It means a great deal. Right now I feel as if my world is caving in around me and I let my family down.

Kevin

I would never presume to take away your very personal feelings. But--as a woman a wife and a mother, I can say this--your family does not feel this way.
You are all in this together, and will work it out together.

But I certainly respect your feelings as the breadwinner and head of the family.
You are going to be okay....soon as you get your sea legs again.

I'm praying the way is easy.
Big HUG.

[klorentz]

So sorry for your hard times ;-( Stay strong, I know this sounds trite, and probably doesn't help you much, but things always work out for the best...or at the very least, they 'work out'. You do the best you can, and worry about the things you have control over....the rest... you leave to a higher power...whatever that may be. Luck to you and yours.

Betty


Thank you Betty. Your words are not out of place. It is so hard to think strait right now. I am going to talk to our pastor first chance I get Sunday. Our church has been a good source of support for us. I just hope something good happens quickly.

Kevin

[klorentz]

I would never presume to take away your very personal feelings. But--as a woman a wife and a mother, I can say this--your family does not feel this way.
You are all in this together, and will work it out together.

But I certainly respect your feelings as the breadwinner and head of the family.
You are going to be okay....soon as you get your sea legs again.

I'm praying the way is easy.
Big HUG.

Thank you.



Kevin

[Painted Goat]

When the Lord closes a door somehow he opens a window. We are in a VERY tight spot right now too so I can epathsize greatly. My life has taught me all things happen for a reason so try real hard to keep as positive an outlook as you can. You're in my prayers.

[PCKGRat]

Thank you Cheese. It means a great deal. Right now I feel as if my world is caving in around me and I let my family down.

Kevin

Be strong Kevin. I barely know you, but am certain you can persevere. We will be waiting to hear from you when you are able to visit.

I will be praying for you that things turn around soon. Just keep saying that they will and believe that this is just a challenge (just a test) that you must struggle through. It will all come together when it is meant to, you just need to be strong.

I can imagine there will be days when hurt words are thrown around by your family or by you. Remember that these are words of fear and that your family loves you regardless of how afraid they are. And, they know you love them and will keep striving even beyond better days because that sounds like the kind of person you are.

DO NOT GIVE UP!!!!!! Please.

Do not forget either that you have friends here who may not know your face, but know your heart. We are here for you. We are here for you when we are needed.

Rachel

[tomatoman223]

Don't give up Kevin!And I'm sure your family doesn't think you let them down.Things happen that sometimes are out of everybody's control.Things will get better.

You and your family are in our prayers.Good luck,and let us know how you guy's are getting along when you get a chance.

[klorentz]

Be strong Kevin. I barely know you, but am certain you can persevere. We will be waiting to hear from you when you are able to visit.

I will be praying for you that things turn around soon. Just keep saying that they will and believe that this is just a challenge (just a test) that you must struggle through. It will all come together when it is meant to, you just need to be strong.

I can imagine there will be days when hurt words are thrown around by your family or by you. Remember that these are words of fear and that your family loves you regardless of how afraid they are. And, they know you love them and will keep striving even beyond better days because that sounds like the kind of person you are.

DO NOT GIVE UP!!!!!! Please.

Do not forget either that you have friends here who may not know your face, but know your heart. We are here for you. We are here for you when we are needed.

Rachel


Thanks Rachel. I am not gonna give up. I just feel so discouraged right now getting knocked back several more steps again when it looked like things where gonna settle down. Almost feel like I am in an ep of Twilight Zone.


Kevin

[springfever]

I am praying for you and your family. May God give you extra blessings and may He send whatever you may need your way. You know that bad things happen to good people too. Going to your pastor is a good step. He may be able to point you in a direction. Kevin, please keep in touch with us. If you don't have internet, could you go by the library sometime and check in just to let us know you and yours are ok.

[Zephyrbird5a-6]

Oh Kevin, I don't know what to say.

If you are still moving to Michigan, they are looking for census workers here in Kazoo, 500 positions. NOT going house to house, these are people working to set up the census for 2010.

Buddy, if you're interested, please PM me.

Zeph

[Cheffie]

I don't know you either, but

(((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))) & prayers to you

[smellycat]

Kevin,
I am sure the stress is very overwhelming. You are and will be in our most humble thoughts as you go through this. Stick together Kevin. Turn around and hug your family and know that all will be ok.

[klorentz]

Thanks everyone. Means a lot. Zeph PM on the way.



Kevin

[onegardengirl]

Dear Kevin and family,

You and your family are in my thoughts and in my prayers daily. I pray things work out for you. As others have stated we don't know what the future holds for us, but it could be new and better than before. We hold you up to God and pray his hand is in everything. I had the same thought as someone earlier, if you end up having to move try to find a library and keep us posted. I wish the best for you and your family during these trying times.

Lynn

[klorentz]

Dear Kevin and family,

You and your family are in my thoughts and in my prayers daily. I pray things work out for you. As others have stated we don't know what the future holds for us, but it could be new and better than before. We hold you up to God and pray his hand is in everything. I had the same thought as someone earlier, if you end up having to move try to find a library and keep us posted. I wish the best for you and your family during these trying times.

Lynn


Thank you Lynn. I know God has a plan. I am just now starting to calm down a bit. This whole thing though has got me in such a state of shock right now. I just do not know what to think anymore.

Kevin

[camochef]

Kevin,

I can recall, lying in the hallway at polyclinic after just having a heart catherization, and having been told I had 99% blockage in one artery, 97%and 98% in the others. No health insurence, a mortgage to pay, all but non-existant savings and a blind wife at home. Things looked bad! That was 20 years ago!
I'm still here, on disability now after having had more heart attacks in 2003. Still living in the same house and although slow I am still able to garden at my own speed. No matter how bad things seem, with a little help from friends and a lot of help from God, things seem to work out.
We will pray for you and your family, as will many others here. There's power in prayer!
Camo

[lorna-organic]

Prayers have been offered and blessings requested. You must persevere in the face of adversity, Kevin. Open yourself up to options not previously considered. This challenge can be conquered.

Lorna

[redbrick]

I'm praying for you, too, Kevin.

[fawnmeadow]

Kevin, your in my prayers. Please don't feel you let your family down, some circumstances are beyond our control. I hope things will get better for you soon.

[RozieDozie]

((((Cyber Hugs, Kevin)))). So sorry to hear about your troubles. Will send good thoughts and prayers your way.

I've had my share of troubles and problems, too,; anyone who is alive has. And sometimes things have seemed pretty bleak and hopeless. But miracles do happen. If you don't mind, I'll tell you what I've learned in hopes it will be helpful to you.

To me, miracles aren't what I can contrive in my finite brain, i.e., finding a job, holding on to a particular house, healing someone I love. A miracle is an unexplained occurrence and sometimes, before the miracle appears, there is much chaos and confusion.

Kevin, I've found that in order to receive the miracle, I have to let go and let God. Sounds trite, I know, but sometimes I've been so busy trying to hold onto what I thought was safe and the best for me and everyone, I've had to be forcefully pulled away from where I was to where I needed to be.

It's scary and painful when we're hanging on tight as we can with both hands to something we want to keep/do and something else is pulling us in another direction, but it's the resistance that is painful and, ultimately, it's the resistance and fear of the unknown that holds us back.

When I've done the best I can, when nothing seems to be working for me, when it's evident that I cannot change or alter a situation, then I just have to say, "Ok, let it be." And when I say that, when I take some deep breaths, when I acknowledge my own limitations as a human, when I stop struggling so, so hard against a steel door, when I step back and stop trying to force things to happen my way, that's when the door opens of its own accord and shows me the right path.

Lots of time the miracle I've envisioned or wanted isn't what has happened. When you're praying hard for a job or a home and you're unemployed or your home gets taken away, that doesn't mean
it's not the beginning of a miracle. Out of chaos comes order. It's scary, but hang in there, Let It Be (let's all hum the Beatles Song, now :)) and good things will come to pass. Help is on its way, even if you don't recongize it at first.

Hang in there, Kevin. All is well; truly it is, and all will work out for you, even if not's the way you think.

Love, Rozie

[klorentz]

((((Cyber Hugs, Kevin)))). So sorry to hear about your troubles. Will send good thoughts and prayers your way.

I've had my share of troubles and problems, too,; anyone who is alive has. And sometimes things have seemed pretty bleak and hopeless. But miracles do happen. If you don't mind, I'll tell you what I've learned in hopes it will be helpful to you.

To me, miracles aren't what I can contrive in my finite brain, i.e., finding a job, holding on to a particular house, healing someone I love. A miracle is an unexplained occurrence and sometimes, before the miracle appears, there is much chaos and confusion.

Kevin, I've found that in order to receive the miracle, I have to let go and let God. Sounds trite, I know, but sometimes I've been so busy trying to hold onto what I thought was safe and the best for me and everyone, I've had to be forcefully pulled away from where I was to where I needed to be.

It's scary and painful when we're hanging on tight as we can with both hands to something we want to keep/do and something else is pulling us in another direction, but it's the resistance that is painful and, ultimately, it's the resistance and fear of the unknown that holds us back.

When I've done the best I can, when nothing seems to be working for me, when it's evident that I cannot change or alter a situation, then I just have to say, "Ok, let it be." And when I say that, when I take some deep breaths, when I acknowledge my own limitations as a human, when I stop struggling so, so hard against a steel door, when I step back and stop trying to force things to happen my way, that's when the door opens of its own accord and shows me the right path.

Lots of time the miracle I've envisioned or wanted isn't what has happened. When you're praying hard for a job or a home and you're unemployed or your home gets taken away, that doesn't mean
it's not the beginning of a miracle. Out of chaos comes order. It's scary, but hang in there, Let It Be (let's all hum the Beatles Song, now :)) and good things will come to pass. Help is on its way, even if you don't recongize it at first.

Hang in there, Kevin. All is well; truly it is, and all will work out for you, even if not's the way you think.

Love, Rozie


Thank you Rozie. btw I had the Beatles song running through my head before I finished reading:p


Kevin

[puttgirl]

Kevin-You haven't let anyone down, times are tough right now. It's been one year that I've been out of work now. Try to think positive thoughts and I'm sure you will turn a corner soon. Prayers are with you.

[klorentz]

Kevin,

I can recall, lying in the hallway at polyclinic after just having a heart catherization, and having been told I had 99% blockage in one artery, 97%and 98% in the others. No health insurence, a mortgage to pay, all but non-existant savings and a blind wife at home. Things looked bad! That was 20 years ago!
I'm still here, on disability now after having had more heart attacks in 2003. Still living in the same house and although slow I am still able to garden at my own speed. No matter how bad things seem, with a little help from friends and a lot of help from God, things seem to work out.
We will pray for you and your family, as will many others here. There's power in prayer!
Camo

Wow Camo you have been through a lot. I guess one thing that worries me is that if we do move I will be to far from the local EMS. We are just three blocks from the EMS barn here in Bryan. And these folks are friends and folks I know that took care of my Dad. It will be hard at this stage moving again. But if the Lord says its gotta be then that's what it will be.


Kevin

[klorentz]

Prayers have been offered and blessings requested. You must persevere in the face of adversity, Kevin. Open yourself up to options not previously considered. This challenge can be conquered.

Lorna


Thank you Lorna for your words of encouragement.


Kevin

[gardentoad]

Sorry things are going so badly for you now. Guess there isn't too much else I can add to what others have said. Just have faith and know that your friends here are praying that all things work out for you.

[Train]

Ya!
Good grief!!!
I thought this was some tricky post
and didn't jump right on it.
Man I gotta stop that stuff.
Mighty sorry to hear these things
Klorentz.
I hope none of this comes to
fact but if it does, no need to
throw away good friendships.
Not as long as you still have
a computer.
Who knows what comes
around these days.
Always, when you are in deep
waters is not the time to become
scarce.
You keep checking in here my
friend.
Who ever said you have to be
planting currently to remain?
How else will we know your alright.
I will look forward to seeing
your post everyday!!!
Train

[moonlilyhead]

I too, hope things work out for you, Kevin. Keep a positive attitude and we will be thinking of you!:)

[Blanesgarden]

Kevin, Ive been thinking about you all day, and wondering what to say.
Im not much for words, but I see alot of folks might have spoken for me to You.

From my family to yours, Our prayers are with you.
Life deals you a card, or a curve, but You are strong, and Please dont give up.
God Bless, and Stay strong.
Shoot me a PM if ya wana talk later.
Blane.

[klorentz]

Sorry things are going so badly for you now. Guess there isn't too much else I can add to what others have said. Just have faith and know that your friends here are praying that all things work out for you.

Thanks GT. I am doing the best I can to keep my self positive and let the Lord handle everything. Bad part is we may loose the car (3payments left) if the next payment is not made.This would be by Monday or Tuesday. All I can do is try to stall them a bit but if not.......I wish my Aunt where here. Thank God for my friends here on Idig and another forum I go too.



Kevin

[klorentz]

Ya!
Good grief!!!
I thought this was some tricky post
and didn't jump right on it.
Man I gotta stop that stuff.
Mighty sorry to hear these things
Klorentz.
I hope none of this comes to
fact but if it does, no need to
throw away good friendships.
Not as long as you still have
a computer.
Who knows what comes
around these days.
Always, when you are in deep
waters is not the time to become
scarce.
You keep checking in here my
friend.
Who ever said you have to be
planting currently to remain?
How else will we know your alright.
I will look forward to seeing
your post everyday!!!
Train

Hey Train!

You bet I will be posting if I have net access. If not I will find a way to let everyone know we are ok even if I have to send a snail mail letter to Jere so he can tell ya we are ok. This forum and everyone on it has come to mean a great deal to me. God willing I will be a contender for the Giant Pumpkin and Tomato Contest this year.


Kevin

[klorentz]

I too, hope things work out for you, Kevin. Keep a positive attitude and we will be thinking of you!:)

Thank you.I am doing my best to be positive.


Kevin, Ive been thinking about you all day, and wondering what to say.
Im not much for words, but I see alot of folks might have spoken for me to You.

From my family to yours, Our prayers are with you.
Life deals you a card, or a curve, but You are strong, and Please dont give up.
God Bless, and Stay strong.
Shoot me a PM if ya wana talk later.
Blane.

I will try ta shoot ya a PM later tonight Blain. And thank you for thinking of us. Which leads me to this if anyone would like our current address just shoot me a PM so we can at least keep in touch that way should things really go bad if I do move this way I can let you all know cuz it will be likely we wont have the net right away. Btw stay tuned.


Kevin

[Cliff Timmons]

Aw dang buddy.
I really hate to hear this.
Please know Kevin that we are still praying for you and your family.

[klorentz]

Aw dang buddy.
I really hate to hear this.
Please know Kevin that we are still praying for you and your family.

Hey Cliff,

I know ya are.I am glad to have such good friends here. One of Gods Blessings is we are never truly alone. Even when we forget from time to time.


Kevin

[brenda70546]

Kevin you and yours are in our thoughts and prayers
keep your head up they can't take away who you are and what you stand for I know what you are going through been there as bleek as it is right now there is something around the next curve in life's highway and it's your turn my friend for something good to come your way always rember we are and will be here waiting to see you in this fourm stay strong and rember real men show there feelings to there love ones ans rally togather
Brenda

[kefirmaven]

Do to things beyond my control we may be going offline for good. To top it all off loosing our home is looking likely within the next 30 days. KevinSorry to hear about this. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts, and prayers.

KM

[klorentz]

Kevin you and yours are in our thoughts and prayers
keep your head up they can't take away who you are and what you stand for I know what you are going through been there as bleek as it is right now there is something around the next curve in life's highway and it's your turn my friend for something good to come your way always rember we are and will be here waiting to see you in this fourm stay strong and rember real men show there feelings to there love ones ans rally togather
Brenda

Sorry to hear about this. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts, and prayers.

KM



Thanks you two. Much appreciated.


Kevin

[countrygma]

Kevin,

I read a little story many years ago that has helped me accomplish things in my life when I have been too discouraged to come up with positive vibrations. It was about an older woman who ran a boarding house, and could just barely keep her head above water because it brought in so little money. Her dream was to run a big hotel and to be financially secure.

One day a boarder came to her boarding house, who she felt comfortable talking about her fears and issues with, and he gave her a little pamphlet with this mantra/prayer and this advice.

He told her, even if she didn't believe it could happen to say this prayer many times throughout the day and he knew her situation would change.

This was the saying.. " I place myself and all my cares, lovingly in the hands of the Father with a child-like trust. Only my greatest and highest good shall come to me."

I don't remember how long it took to work for her, but it worked and she was offered the job of her dreams and became successful and happy.

sounds like a fairy tale I know, but I have used this mantra/prayer for over 20 years and it has always worked, for big issues and small. I always had problems just praying..not sure why..but when I had this prayer all ready written out for me, it became much easier.

Warm regards..

[Emerald]

Sorry to hear of all of your problems :( And I hope that things look up for you and yours soon...
On the matter of on line-- just do what I do when I loose my internet sometimes,, just run down to the local library (I hope that most libraries are like mine) and sign up for the 1/2 hour online that they sometimes have,, all I need here in MI is my library card and sometimes there is a wait (when school is out :eek:) but most times I can get right on.
I will be right here pulling for you!! Em

[klorentz]

Kevin,

I read a little story many years ago that has helped me accomplish things in my life when I have been too discouraged to come up with positive vibrations. It was about an older woman who ran a boarding house, and could just barely keep her head above water because it brought in so little money. Her dream was to run a big hotel and to be financially secure.

One day a boarder came to her boarding house, who she felt comfortable talking about her fears and issues with, and he gave her a little pamphlet with this mantra/prayer and this advice.

He told her, even if she didn't believe it could happen to say this prayer many times throughout the day and he knew her situation would change.

This was the saying.. " I place myself and all my cares, lovingly in the hands of the Father with a child-like trust. Only my greatest and highest good shall come to me."

I don't remember how long it took to work for her, but it worked and she was offered the job of her dreams and became successful and happy.

sounds like a fairy tale I know, but I have used this mantra/prayer for over 20 years and it has always worked, for big issues and small. I always had problems just praying..not sure why..but when I had this prayer all ready written out for me, it became much easier.

Warm regards..


Thank you Gma. That is a nice thing to remember..


Kevin

[klorentz]

Well folks looks like I am getting a job offer from a friend on another forum ( not garden related). This friend owns a company that shuttles railroad employees to rail yards. Most of her employees make around five hundred dollars a week. its 8 to twelve hour long days. I would need to take a drug test , have a background check ( Homeland Security stipulations regarding rail yards) and they run my MVR.


Here is the problem. The job is in Willard which is an hour and a half to two hours away east of Bryan. Second prob. My Dad. He may be unwilling or unable to go. We have reason to believe that behind our backs he has been made a permanent resident of the nursing home. So this would force me to make a choice between My Dad and keeping a roof over mine Linda's and Becky's ( Linda's daughter) heads. Three the finances for the move and getting a home and setting up utilities etc. I am not sure but think there is a state program that helps unemployed folks relocate to where they have a genuine job waiting. So I guess I would need to deal with the Gov again. I might add my car if I still had it would not make it.


Any ideas suggestions ??



Kevin

[Cliff Timmons]

Sounds like you might have a long commute in your future for a while.

[gardencrazy]

I'm terribly sorry to read about your circumstances. Unfortunately. I've been in your shoes before. A lot of sleepless nights and fights. I'm so glad to hear you got the job. Like Cliff said, I think you're going to be commuting for a while. I've done that commute before. It's tiring, especially the first week or two until you get used to it.

In the meantime, call your creditors and explain your circumstances. Some will still be obstinate about payment, but others will be willing to delay payment or work out a payment plan with you.

Wish you & your family all the best - onward and upward!

[RozieDozie]

Seems to me that staying where you are as you are isn't solving much.

The nursing home for Dad might be a blessing for now. He will get good care and have his needs met while you and your family are getting back on your feet.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

Rozie

[klorentz]

I'm terribly sorry to read about your circumstances. Unfortunately. I've been in your shoes before. A lot of sleepless nights and fights. I'm so glad to hear you got the job. Like Cliff said, I think you're going to be commuting for a while. I've done that commute before. It's tiring, especially the first week or two until you get used to it.

In the meantime, call your creditors and explain your circumstances. Some will still be obstinate about payment, but others will be willing to delay payment or work out a payment plan with you.

Wish you & your family all the best - onward and upward!


Have not got it yet. Gotta do the background check and drug test and mvr report.



Kevin

[randycarter]

I hope things work out. If you get the job then take it and endure the long commute on top of the long hours. Hopefully a better opportuntity will open up after awhile. God bless.

[Cliff Timmons]

And Kevin, I didn't mean that as cold as it sounded.

[klorentz]

I hope things work out. If you get the job then take it and endure the long commute on top of the long hours. Hopefully a better opportuntity will open up after awhile. God bless.

I am looking at commute or relocate. Hope to get things together.Soon!!!


Kevin

[klorentz]

And Kevin, I didn't mean that as cold as it sounded.

I know Cliff.


Kevin

[DebbieG]

Blessings Kevin,

I am sorry to hear about your situation, but it sounds to me like God may be opening a door. You have been offered a job, maybe you should take the drug test and do what ever is necessary to apply for the job. God may just get you a better car and maybe a better place to live, maybe a place 1/2 way between your job and your dad. I agree with talking to your pastor, the Christian community reaches far and wide. Maybe the churches could help you get back on your feet, or maybe someone in the church could help you with carpooling, a new home to live in, a better job offer, who knows. Kevin, if you really have faith, then you know God will provide, He always does. Maybe not the way we think He should, but He knows what is best for us. We just have to have faith. Just look at this as an opportunity to something better, even if you don't know what the better is yet. Change is hard and often scary, but if you have faith it will make the transition easier. I think there is a blessing coming your way. As you can see from the posts there are many prayers being lifted for you and your family. And I truly believe in the power of prayer.

I too, will be praying for you and your family.

DebbieG

[Bird]

Kevin,
I sure had high hopes that you and your family wouldn't have to make many changes to get back on your feet. I think you have had some good advice. Connect with us when you can online at the library. Try and work with your creditors they may comprimise. Look at change as a possible good thing. I know that is easier said then done, but you will never know until you try. I always remember the verse in the bible about God provides even for the birds of the air, why then would you doubt he will provide for you. I think you will have many choices to make, but put your trust in yourself and God that it will work out in the end.

[mrtomatoexpres]

Hi Kevin never say goodbye or quit.I kind of know what your going threw.My friend closed his store without telling anyone.I was out a job then out of my apartment.Ilived on the streets for 9 mouths.Some of my exfriends said why not end it all.I said no way Iam not a quiter.I worked 3 jobs lost 2.had people say things like oh Iam going home hoops sorry about that you do not have one.They would show me there keys and laugh.I had few friends that were my real friends kept me going.Then on Oct. 1,1993 I got my apartment and took a shower for a hour just sat there HOTWATER oh baby.Then went bowling in my league in Brooklyn.When we were still not ready to bowl I looked at my friend said hay look I got KEYS to my apartment.He just shuck his head he knew what I meant.Just stuck it o them.20 of use went out to eat after bowling.What a feeling it was to hear your friends say you did it,But we new you could do it.Right now things are not great but Iam still alive.So just keep you chinup.Something good is going to happen to you.

[klorentz]

Thanks all,

In the end I think God wanted me to talk to you folks and the good folks on another forum I go. He knew that in the state I was in I needed my friends to talk to. And it has helped although it took some time to get myself calmed down.To be honest this job offer comes as a surprise because it was unexpected. But then this is how God is so fond of working. He truly is great. I think I will go to bed now folks. I am just about wiped out.


Night.


Kevin

[PCKGRat]

Hey Kevin,

I used to be railroad and I remember the kind folks who would pick us up in the vans. They really were kind and helped a lot of us out by waiting there while our trains were late and our twelve hour days dragged on to sixteen.

Thank God for them. If you get to be one of those folks, just don't be surprised if upon picking up certain Amtrak workers (if you ever do), you find a little tip in your hand. I'm not sure about the freight train folk.

Good luck with it. It will be an easier commute visiting your father than going to work daily. The job is worth it, if it is the company I remember (begins with an R?). And, you will meet some of the most odd and interesting people you could possibly imagine... Of course, you are a member of this forum and many of us fall under that category. :p

[FAADAN]

Hey Kevin,

I used to be railroad and I remember the kind folks who would pick us up in the vans. They really were kind and helped a lot of us out by waiting there while our trains were late and our twelve hour days dragged on to sixteen.

Thank God for them. If you get to be one of those folks, just don't be surprised if upon picking up certain Amtrak workers (if you ever do), you find a little tip in your hand. I'm not sure about the freight train folk.

Good luck with it. It will be an easier commute visiting your father than going to work daily. The job is worth it, if it is the company I remember (begins with an R?). And, you will meet some of the most odd and interesting people you could possibly imagine... Of course, you are a member of this forum and many of us fall under that category. :p

I resemble that remark. :D

[klorentz]

Hey Kevin,

I used to be railroad and I remember the kind folks who would pick us up in the vans. They really were kind and helped a lot of us out by waiting there while our trains were late and our twelve hour days dragged on to sixteen.

Thank God for them. If you get to be one of those folks, just don't be surprised if upon picking up certain Amtrak workers (if you ever do), you find a little tip in your hand. I'm not sure about the freight train folk.

Good luck with it. It will be an easier commute visiting your father than going to work daily. The job is worth it, if it is the company I remember (begins with an R?). And, you will meet some of the most odd and interesting people you could possibly imagine... Of course, you are a member of this forum and many of us fall under that category. :p


Good to hear from someone who knows about it. I would be driving CSXT's crews to the yards or wherever they need to go. Could be as far east as NY or as far west as the Windy City. But the pay is good and I would be bringing in more so we would not have to worry. That commute will be a pain for a while but at least it would keep a roof over our heads. Oh and the interesting people remark............Remember I was in the pizza biz for many moons so I am use to it by now.:D


Kevin

[Cheesecake]

Good to hear from someone who knows about it. I would be driving CSXT's crews to the yards or wherever they need to go. Could be as far east as NY or as far west as the Windy City. But the pay is good and I would be bringing in more so we would not have to worry. That commute will be a pain for a while but at least it would keep a roof over our heads. Oh and the interesting people remark............Remember I was in the pizza biz for many moons so I am use to it by now.:D


Kevin

Hey my Grandson Matt works for Herzog...and is all over the place working on the railroad. He drives a HUGE truck that has road tires and rail wheels on it...so he can go everywhere on the railroad. He just went back to his current location yesterday...flew out of KC and landed in Spokane WA....he goes where the repairs are....pretty interesting and high dollar job.
If you run into a tall lanky Rodeo Champ in a real strange looking truck from MO...holler hi from Grandma !!!

I hope you love your new job.

[Bird]

My hubby is a railroad worker too. He is with a small area contracter who builds and repairs tracks. I hope if this is where you end up it all works well. Think positive

[klorentz]

Hi Cheese and Shanon,


Remember I have not got the job yet. So I am still in a big bind. Utilities ,rent and car needs to be paid. 200 of our rent has been paid by our church. Most of the Electric will be covered by Community Action.Gas and car have yet to have any money put on them.



Kevin

[Locavore]

Take a deep breath, my friend, and consider this situation step by step. One of the mistakes I often make when faced with an overwhelming series of decisions is to look too long and hard at the jumble of details, which easily overwhelms me with the enormity of ALL the pieces that need to be put into place---and in my mind they must be put in place RIGHT NOW.

It's easy to fixate on the ideal end goal, and then to get tripped up by how far that goal may be from the present reality. What you face here is a series of steps that need to be taken in turn, understanding that the end goal will materialize slowly and not all at once.

First step: secure that job!

Second step: secure a means of getting to it. A 2-hour commute is not pretty, but certainly not out of the realm of possibility (my cousin-in-law for a time lived in Sacramento, CA, and commuted to San Jose. For those of you familiar with the Bay Area, you are probably shuddering right now at the thought!)

All of the other elements you have mentioned must be considered and worked into the plan, but at a rate you are able to handle. This may sound overly simplistic, but I have found it very helpful to take a few sheets of large paper, tape them to the wall, and list out all your variables you will need to consider, all the steps involved, all the possible trade-offs you will need to consider. When you have the situation mapped out clearly on the wall, it is surprizingly helpful for navegating your way through it, for seeing the things that must be decided and implemented right away, and the ones that can wait a while.

While you sound a lot more calm in your last posts than before, in your initial panic (a feeling I can relate to), you were concerned that taking this job and moving closer to it would mean ending contact with your dad, right as he is going through his own challenges. This is a totally valid concern. Someone else mentioned that this is not a complete trade-off. Two hours is reasonably close to your loved ones, relatively speaking, and such a move will not mean cutting yourself off from him.

On the sheets of paper on the wall, you can also write out prayers and affirmations for your constant reference, some good ones offered by folks here. WHile I am not a religious person in the organized sense, I completely agree that there is power in prayer. Whether this power comes from God, from our own inner strength, or--as I believe--from the energies and momentum shifting and propelling though the universe and through us as part of that universe, the power is real. Visualize what you need, visualize the steps involved, vocalize your visions every day through prayer, mantra, affirmation, whatever feels right to you. And be open to the inevidable changes to the plan, while keeping the end goal in sight.

Deep breaths. We are with you. Your church community is with you. Your family is with you. THe Universe is with you.

Peace,
M

[klorentz]

Take a deep breath, my friend, and consider this situation step by step. One of the mistakes I often make when faced with an overwhelming series of decisions is to look too long and hard at the jumble of details, which easily overwhelms me with the enormity of ALL the pieces that need to be put into place---and in my mind they must be put in place RIGHT NOW.

It's easy to fixate on the ideal end goal, and then to get tripped up by how far that goal may be from the present reality. What you face here is a series of steps that need to be taken in turn, understanding that the end goal will materialize slowly and not all at once.

First step: secure that job!



Second step: secure a means of getting to it. A 2-hour commute is not pretty, but certainly not out of the realm of possibility (my cousin-in-law for a time lived in Sacramento, CA, and commuted to San Jose. For those of you familiar with the Bay Area, you are probably shuddering right now at the thought!)

All of the other elements you have mentioned must be considered and worked into the plan, but at a rate you are able to handle. This may sound overly simplistic, but I have found it very helpful to take a few sheets of large paper, tape them to the wall, and list out all your variables you will need to consider, all the steps involved, all the possible trade-offs you will need to consider. When you have the situation mapped out clearly on the wall, it is surprizingly helpful for navegating your way through it, for seeing the things that must be decided and implemented right away, and the ones that can wait a while.

While you sound a lot more calm in your last posts than before, in your initial panic (a feeling I can relate to), you were concerned that taking this job and moving closer to it would mean ending contact with your dad, right as he is going through his own challenges. This is a totally valid concern. Someone else mentioned that this is not a complete trade-off. Two hours is reasonably close to your loved ones, relatively speaking, and such a move will not mean cutting yourself off from him.

On the sheets of paper on the wall, you can also write out prayers and affirmations for your constant reference, some good ones offered by folks here. WHile I am not a religious person in the organized sense, I completely agree that there is power in prayer. Whether this power comes from God, from our own inner strength, or--as I believe--from the energies and momentum shifting and propelling though the universe and through us as part of that universe, the power is real. Visualize what you need, visualize the steps involved, vocalize your visions every day through prayer, mantra, affirmation, whatever feels right to you. And be open to the inevidable changes to the plan, while keeping the end goal in sight.

Deep breaths. We are with you. Your church community is with you. Your family is with you. THe Universe is with you.

Peace,
M


Just heard from my prospective boss via the other forum. Apparently the background check thing to satisfy Homeland Security is somewhat new. She has to run a check on all her drivers and has not had a chance to call me. So soon all that stuff begins.

Kevin

P.S. God is Great.

[lorna-organic]

One of the guys I work with has two jobs. His other job is doing the railroad driver gig. He likes it. Good luck, Kevin!

Lorna

[Cheesecake]

Just heard from my prospective boss via the other forum. Apparently the background check thing to satisfy Homeland Security is somewhat new. She has to run a check on all her drivers and has not had a chance to call me. So soon all that stuff begins.

Kevin

P.S. God is Great.

Hubby and I are self employed, and dealing with the Government issues, re: Homeland Security is like walking on eggs...but eventually you get it all organized.
We Truck--owner operators, and when people hauling HazMat heard all the ''new stuff'' after 9/11...it was almost overwhelming to me. I run the office, I have to do the same thing for 1 driver or 50+ drivers.....but, it works out one thing at a time.

The back ground check and driving to get it and then taking a HazMat test everytime he renews...is annoying...I'm sure we've come close to dumping the hazmat loads and just haul ''stuff''. But, we are in ''demand'' because of the license...and it has helped this past year...with diesel prices killing us. Your prospective new employer is right...it's time consuming, and confusing.

As far as the commute, I'm the wrong person to even discuss that being over the road trucking, miles mean nothing but how much we charge for freight and how big our fuel surcharge will be. And I've long ago gotten used to ''hubby'' being away from home...being alone doesn't mean being lonesome...we adjust quickly, our kids adjust and our parents adjust.

And, in this day and age, we must put those things that make us feel guilty, ie: elder care, and child care into the hands of other family members or professionals. The breadwinner must do what he/she has to do...AND BITE THE BULLET.

***the poster who commuted between Sacramento and San Jose must have been breathing lots of ''fumes''...roflol.
***my Dad was a Bay Area Commuter.....short but annoying, I'm sure.....when it takes 2 hours to go one way from Concord to Berkeley....one knows the meaning of ''bumper to bumper''.....while breathing car exhaust.

I'm still wishing you good luck and good fortune for this new job...or the next new job....and hanging in there til you get that first pay check. The economy sucks...and we here at the Trucking Depot hear and feel that sucking sound............but we are Missouri Hogs on Ice....and until we are unable to walk and talk...we ain't gonna give up one iota.

When things get tough the tough get going....just keep that faith, and know the power of prayer and our thoughts of you can be one powerful force.

Hugs.....

[klorentz]

Speaking of bumper to bumper. Being a native of Los Angles County Lord do I know about that subject. Try the San Diego or Santa Ana Freeway at peak hours! traffic moves so slow you could get a nap in or read a book.


Kevin

[Locavore]

***the poster who commuted between Sacramento and San Jose must have been breathing lots of ''fumes''...roflol.
***my Dad was a Bay Area Commuter.....short but annoying, I'm sure.....when it takes 2 hours to go one way from Concord to Berkeley....one knows the meaning of ''bumper to bumper''.....while breathing car exhaust......

LOL! Yeah, I'm sure my cousin-in-law has breathed his share of nastiness on that commute! I guess I'm lucky, relatively speaking. My commute is about 30-45 minutes depending on traffic. But, with no traffic, it's a 10-15 minute drive, so traffic more than doubles the time. Generally, it's not bumper-to-bumper, though, so it's not too bad. I do wish I could do it on public transportation, though. Get some reading done on the way. However, my work is in a bad place for that--it would take two trains and a bus to do it, and be at least 90 minutes. Yuck.

[Cheesecake]

I used to commute to Oakland from Concord every morning, on the Grayhound Bus. Just sitting at the bus depot, made me ill...all those emissions nearly killed me. We had to stop at all the little sheds along the way to pick up more riders....mostly 2 lane and 4 lane...between start and stop. (now you know how old I am)....then I'd catch that bus back mid afternoon and take it to school, and catch a ride with a friend home. Amazing now that I think of it.

Now I could do it on BART if I wasn't too afraid to get on BART.

(this happens to people who have lived too long down in the Ozark Woods, where there is only 2 lane roads, and no public transportation....You are afraid of all those strange people speaking 7 different languages and have all their belongings in one shopping bag).... :eek:

[klorentz]

More bad news. If I do not come up with the car payment by 4pm Friday I will be without wheels. Bad part is its only three months from being paid off.And nope can't make em budge. Its a BHPH lot if that tells ya something.


Kevin

[CityMouse]

Klorentz, if you don't owe anything else on your car except the last three payments, couldn't you have it refinanced? I don't know very much about this kind of stuff but it might work. Maybe you could get a letter from your future employer stating that as soon as your background check is completed, that you will be starting this job. You could take it to another bank and ask them if they can help you so that you won't lose the car. If this isn't possible, do you have any family that might be able to give you a loan until you can start your new job?
Maybe you could go on over to the town where you will be working and see if you can find some odd jobs. If its not as depressed over there as it is where you live, maybe you will have more success.

How about putting up a notice at your church or around town, that you are willing to do odd jobs. Maybe someone needs help with cleaning their garage, house, basement, attic or yard. That could earn you some quick money. Do you have anything you could sell. Maybe have a garage sale.

I realize that it is a little late to make the Friday payment deadline with some of the above suggestions so I would try going to another bank and see if they will work with you. Do you have anything of value that you could pawn? If you can just come up with a way of making this payment, then that will buy you some time to come up with the rest. Good luck to you!

[klorentz]

I would try going to another bank and see if they will work with you. Do you have anything of value that you could pawn? If you can just come up with a way of making this payment, then that will buy you some time to come up with the rest. Good luck to you!


Its not that simple. The car is through a buy here pay here lot. I will make a few last ditch efforts but if that fails I will loose my car:(

[klorentz]

Counting some blessings here folks.


My Aunt and Uncle stopped by today. They dropped off some cleaning supplies and a few goodies including some nummy summer sausage.I love them(my Aunt and Uncle).


Williams County Veterans Services. Our bills still being in Dads name these kind folks have come to our aid to help with the utility bills. They paid what will not be covered by community action on our electric and paid our overdue gas bill. They also know I have been making an effort to find work.

Grace Community Church. This is our church which I have bragged on here. They paid part of our rent.This Church was co-founded by my Uncle in his rather large finished basement. Now it has services to aid the many needy folks in this area including with medical needs and Missionary work in other parts of the world. A great legacy for the founding members.


Car still here. I think that may be due in part to the snow that has been piling up this afternoon and part was my pointing out and appealing to logic.


And thanks for the tip about Rupp seeds Sacratomato. This is a family operation in nearby Wauseon Oh. While I would have to buy a larger quantity than normal of my pumpkin seeds and other seeds I would be supporting a local family run company. A very important thing considering how our local economy is suffering.When we get through all our financial woes I will order from these good folks.

All in all while things still look bad there is some light breaking through the clouds at times.


Kevin

[Locavore]

It's so good to hear of these blessings coming into your life, and easing the pain of this time for you.

If you have seed needs, please let us know. I know many of us would be very happy to send you some if you post a wish-list or just pm.

Keep your spirits up, and keep us posted!

Peace,
M

[klorentz]

It's so good to hear of these blessings coming into your life, and easing the pain of this time for you.

If you have seed needs, please let us know. I know many of us would be very happy to send you some if you post a wish-list or just pm.

Keep your spirits up, and keep us posted!

Peace,
M



I will keep ya posted. And as soon as I know what will be going on I will let you know on the seeds. One of my biggest needs will most likely be in vine crops.Melons will be one. I will have a few pumpkin seeds left. Found some Winter Luxury Pie pumpkins from 2006 and some Howden's Field. I am OK on Corn. Will have to take a look at what is left from last year.


Kevin

[klorentz]

Well folks I am hanging in there but the Land Lord called looking for the rest of the rent and I am calling more Calvary in hopes to get more help. I e-mailed the 700 Club as they do have aid programs and put in a prayer request there. I am so frazzled right now. Hate to have to ask for help cuz it goes against the grain for me. I am going to wait on asking JFS as a last resort because they have a bad habit of being demeaning and tell you there are jobs around here when there aint.Local employment agency(a branch of JFS) says nothing has changed since I was there last.

I keep thinking(to be positive) the Lord will provide. And has provided to hold the dogs at bay. But now the dogs are starting to bark again.And I know some how he will keep an eye on things for me if I continue to believe.

Kevin

[klorentz]

Well folks I lost my car. I am not going to panic and let the Lord handle it.


Kevin

[lorna-organic]

I am sorry, Kevin.

[klorentz]

Date line Bryan Ohio! Ya know that voice in your head that tells ya you should check something out?No Cliff you do not need to get a hold of the local shrink for me. Well that voice told me to check Dads debit card and guess what ? Our prayers have been answered! We now have the money to pay the bills folks!Thanking God a bazillion times!


Kevin

[mrtomatoexpres]

CONGRATS.

[gardencrazy]

Kevin, I'm sorry to hear about your car, but maybe now you can work out a deal to get it back. Your endurance during this difficult time is admirable.

Sending wishes for the best for you and your family.

[klorentz]

Thanks guys. I did get the car back. And got some much needed supplies.Just to make sure it worked I did place a small order to BC.Getting some good tomatoes (4) which include Amish Paste.Was so excited forgot to get bell peppers. I really think this is Gods way of telling me everything will be ok. I did not panic and he guided me.Saw the Land Lady on the road and gave her the good news. I feel that this year will be good for the garden and will be planting some extra for the Church food pantry.Still have some seeds from last year that I can use but will still need others.Time to look at things to see what is needed. God is Great!


Kevin