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kefirmaven
August 29th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Special Report
We Are a Rude Awakening

By Marilia Duffles on 8.28.09 @ 6:08AM

I'm wrestling with my amateur version of a great philosophical paradox: if rudeness is so pervasively commonplace throughout society, does it cease to be rudeness?

It started when I went to our local bookstore this week to hear the nattily suited Howard Dean talk about his book, Howard Dean's Prescription for Health Care Reform, and ended up riveted instead by a rich display of rampant rudeness. Knees, backsides and hand-bags took swipes at me as people rushed towards the empty seats in my row with nary an "excuse me" being uttered.

A perfectly healthy middle-aged man refused to offer his seat to a woman well in her 80s. But she, too, cut a wholly unsympathetic figure by repeatedly refusing my offer of a seat because she preferred, I realized later, to stand and glower at him rather than to sit comfortably.

And there were others who obviously felt Dean was interrupting their talking. During question time, a woman politely mentioned that she was supportive of Obama's health care quest even though she had voted for Nader. Well! Like slings and arrows, loud boos and sibilant jeers shot through the airwaves with flaming disapproval. Dean immediately waved the parentally punitive index finger as he loudly exclaimed, to his great credit, I might add, "No, no, no, there will be none of this behavior"!

These are not spittoon using yahoos, these are not the sans culottes of the third estate.

No, the audience here is a consistently thick slice of Washington, D.C.'s Ward 4, whose fame spiked recently in a profile by the columnist David Brooks. Row after row of quills (quasi-intellectual liberals) in their shabby best, laser-beaming their eager intent to clap whenever the champion of the day verbally reinforces their ideology and to hiss whenever their orthodoxy is challenged.

Don't get me wrong, I am not wielding a partisan slap. My intellectual curiosity has an open-door policy to many a topic, issue and argument.

Shifting over to the rudeness taking place in town-hall meetings. I felt sorry for Congressman Barney Frank having to stand up for both issue and self as he humbly battled the babbling rabble-rouser who kept belligerently interrupting him. I can't recall his being treated this way when he faced the personal scandal in the early '90s. On the other side of the coin was Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee's appallingly rude choice to answer her cell phone in the middle of a constituent's polite question. No clearer statement of her disdain for those who elected her could possibly have been made if she were to use a megaphone. She should have been upbraided.

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/08/28/we-are-a-rude-awakening

Cliff Timmons
August 29th, 2009, 10:58 PM
I wonder the same about morality.

Essex
August 29th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Wasn't this (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/29/its-come-to-this-dems-task-teddys-grandson-with-leading-funeral-prayer-for-obamacare/) special?

kefirmaven
August 29th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Wasn't this (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/29/its-come-to-this-dems-task-teddys-grandson-with-leading-funeral-prayer-for-obamacare/) special?I didn't think that was appropriate for them to be pushing politics. It's another Wellstone moment, for sure.

Cliff Timmons
August 29th, 2009, 11:27 PM
That's a shame.
Let the family grieve.

Essex
August 29th, 2009, 11:29 PM
I thought they would learn from Wellstone but they just couldn't stop themselves.

darwinslair
August 30th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Wasn't this (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/29/its-come-to-this-dems-task-teddys-grandson-with-leading-funeral-prayer-for-obamacare/) special?

<laughing> it was one of his pet projects, but seems a bit misplaced in a funeral.

Tom

Essex
August 30th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Especially when we all know those kids who were praying will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be under the same pet project he wanted to inflict on everyone else.

tughillcam
August 30th, 2009, 07:32 AM
Special Report
We Are a Rude Awakening

By Marilia Duffles on 8.28.09 @ 6:08AM

I'm wrestling with my amateur version of a great philosophical paradox: if rudeness is so pervasively commonplace throughout society, does it cease to be rudeness?

It started when I went to our local bookstore this week to hear the nattily suited Howard Dean talk about his book, Howard Dean's Prescription for Health Care Reform, and ended up riveted instead by a rich display of rampant rudeness. Knees, backsides and hand-bags took swipes at me as people rushed towards the empty seats in my row with nary an "excuse me" being uttered.

A perfectly healthy middle-aged man refused to offer his seat to a woman well in her 80s. But she, too, cut a wholly unsympathetic figure by repeatedly refusing my offer of a seat because she preferred, I realized later, to stand and glower at him rather than to sit comfortably.

And there were others who obviously felt Dean was interrupting their talking. During question time, a woman politely mentioned that she was supportive of Obama's health care quest even though she had voted for Nader. Well! Like slings and arrows, loud boos and sibilant jeers shot through the airwaves with flaming disapproval. Dean immediately waved the parentally punitive index finger as he loudly exclaimed, to his great credit, I might add, "No, no, no, there will be none of this behavior"!

These are not spittoon using yahoos, these are not the sans culottes of the third estate.

No, the audience here is a consistently thick slice of Washington, D.C.'s Ward 4, whose fame spiked recently in a profile by the columnist David Brooks. Row after row of quills (quasi-intellectual liberals) in their shabby best, laser-beaming their eager intent to clap whenever the champion of the day verbally reinforces their ideology and to hiss whenever their orthodoxy is challenged.

Don't get me wrong, I am not wielding a partisan slap. My intellectual curiosity has an open-door policy to many a topic, issue and argument.

Shifting over to the rudeness taking place in town-hall meetings. I felt sorry for Congressman Barney Frank having to stand up for both issue and self as he humbly battled the babbling rabble-rouser who kept belligerently interrupting him. I can't recall his being treated this way when he faced the personal scandal in the early '90s. On the other side of the coin was Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee's appallingly rude choice to answer her cell phone in the middle of a constituent's polite question. No clearer statement of her disdain for those who elected her could possibly have been made if she were to use a megaphone. She should have been upbraided.

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/08/28/we-are-a-rude-awakening

Like a Jerry Springer audience. unbelievable.
There is no excuse for what Jackson did either.

Gort
August 30th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Not to try to change the topic....but wanted to add...Rudeness..... getting worse where I live all of the time.
20 years ago(and even back in 1992, 17 years ago), when we visited the general area(inlaws) where we now live... we thought" this is nice.. slower pace out this way, people open doors, say excuse me and thank you", etc...
Fast forward to 2009.... Not Even Remotely Like It Used To Be.
If when we visited in '89 and '92, and people acted like they do now, back then....
I don't know if I would have wanted to move here(well, I wouldn't have...spouse would, only due to inlaws being here).
Not saying everyone here is rude/road raging/don't care about anyone but themseleves types... but it sure seems like this type of person/personality(?) is more prevelant(sp?) than "nice" folks.


Another example is the "newer" neighbors(moved here after the year 2000).
The neighbors next door have been here(first to move in this area/new homes) for 35 years.
They greeted us when we were just looking at the house, and we spoke to them for about 10 minutes.

The newer folks, on the other side of us?
The only time they spoke to us was to complain about something(not joking, unfortunately).

Tried to talk to them a few times... they don't speak to anyone, except another neighbor next to them.
Even the kids are kept indoors most of the Summer... rarely seem them outside...and if they are, they don't speak to anyone(well, they tried..one is 9, one is 8... tried to say hi to me, and they got yelled at by the mother, to get indoors).

Most of these folks (not bashing any age group here..just reporting facts)... are under 35 years old(it appears. I could be wrong).

We have met all of the older folks(well, they were 50's and 60's in age, when we moved here, 10+ years ago).

Just odd.

My late friend(who passed away last month) ..we talked about this.
He said driver's are more rude than ever, people(he worked at a retail /grocery store, and he saw many people) were worse every year.
He said the kids would "run wild" in the store, people would run into you with their carts, give you a dirty look, and move on(not even say"sorry").

One guy, who cleans the parking lot/pushes carts, older guy, told me he lived in the area(too) all of his life, and people are as bad as some of the folks in the city(in the country area) any longer.

We have seen people take a grocery cart, push it... and let it go wherever..sometime hitting other people's vehicles..denting them..not caring 1 bit.

bughunter99
August 30th, 2009, 02:09 PM
<laughing> it was one of his pet projects, but seems a bit misplaced in a funeral.

Tom

I watched the entire funeral mass. Taken in context I didn't think it was misplaced though I can see how a brief few seconds of it on you-tube gives it that appearance. Each of the family members took a turn asking for prayer for many different things currently concerning mankind. This was just one of those.

I hadn't planned on watching the ceremony. I was flipping channels and landed on it. It was quite something. Very dignified. I've had trouble finding words to describe it. I've never seen anything like it before.

Stacy

Alabamy
August 30th, 2009, 02:59 PM
I don't know if rudeness is increasing, people have always been dismayed when comparing the manners of today to those of yesterday.

Cliff Timmons
August 30th, 2009, 06:12 PM
I don't know if rudeness is increasing, people have always been dismayed when comparing the manners of today to those of yesterday.

I think you're right.
Not that it makes it any better, but most every generation is concerned about that.