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SoCalGardens
May 29th, 2010, 07:56 PM
I planted my garden sort of scatter variety this year -- interspersing all the plants amongst all the others.

My squash and melons are up and running but I can't tell the difference. One plant appears to have "toothy" leafs and I think this may be crane's melons. The other has more rounded leaves and I am pretty sure this is Kabochi Squash.

Tried to upload photos but didn't work (wrong size, can't link to facebook apparently).

Blanesgarden
May 29th, 2010, 09:09 PM
I planted my garden sort of scatter variety this year -- interspersing all the plants amongst all the others.

My squash and melons are up and running but I can't tell the difference. One plant appears to have "toothy" leafs and I think this may be crane's melons. The other has more rounded leaves and I am pretty sure this is Kabochi Squash.

Tried to upload photos but didn't work (wrong size, can't link to facebook apparently).

And after all that work, taking and posting those awsome Pics....you found yourself
lost in the Abise!
Im guessing you have a tag system?
Comon now....
You coached me....
Huh?:cool:;):eek::D

SoCalGardens
May 29th, 2010, 09:36 PM
And after all that work, taking and posting those awsome Pics....you found yourself
lost in the Abise!
Im guessing you have a tag system?
Comon now....
You coached me....
Huh?:cool:;):eek::D

Trying again.

This is Kabochi, I am pretty sure:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4651097903/

I think this is Crane's Melons:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4651716386/

Notice the much more exaggerated toothiness on this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4651097841/

KellyGardens
May 29th, 2010, 11:46 PM
Yikes! I can't tell a squash from a melon from a cucumber! Or at least I couldn't last year when I was shipped a packet that was marked cucumber, but was really yellow crookneck squash. :o

Good luck figuring out what's what!

SoCalGardens
May 30th, 2010, 12:14 AM
Yikes! I can't tell a squash from a melon from a cucumber! Or at least I couldn't last year when I was shipped a packet that was marked cucumber, but was really yellow crookneck squash. :o

Good luck figuring out what's what!

Well I will know when the fruit sets, and I guess until then it don't really matter much. Although I hand pollinate everything in the squash/cucumber/melon family, I don't generally save my own seeds.

SherylGallant
May 30th, 2010, 06:48 AM
You will know what they are when they set fruit :-)
I didn't mark mine this year, but I remember what they are, so far. Later in the summer I will have forgotten but by then they will have fruit on them, hopefully. I don't really care as long as they do well and bear lots of fruits. I know I will be able to tell what they are then.

I hand pollinate all mine, too. I keep my own seed so I tie a few closed when I pollinate them too. I hand pollinate mostly to get more veggies.

I only and pollinated the squash previously but this year I will do the melons and cukes too.

FailedSlacker
May 30th, 2010, 10:48 AM
If you're interested in the mystery being spoiled, highlight below since there doesn't seem to be a spoiler block here.

You're right. Kabocha have rounded leaves.

TWC015
May 30th, 2010, 10:52 AM
if you go to google and type in "cucumber leaf," you can look at the leaf shape to help determine which plants are what. You can do this with the others as well. Also, the flowers of melons and cucumbers are noticeably different than squash and other plants in the genus Cucurbi
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SoCalGardens
June 6th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Fruits have set on.

Kabochi: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4675835536/

Crane's Melon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4675835454/

Cantaloupes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4675835312/

cucurbits
June 6th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Those don't like cantaloupes to me. Could you get a picture of the leaves?

SoCalGardens
June 6th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Those don't like cantaloupes to me. Could you get a picture of the leaves?

Well then they may be Kabochi. But most of the Kabochi are more precisely spherical at this point of their development. I have three varieties of fruit: spherical; almost tubular; and this slightly oblong. I put out three kinds of seeds: Kabochi; Cantaloupe and Crane's.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4675899049/

Hairy Moose Knuckles
June 8th, 2010, 02:46 AM
Don't know what kind of squash you have, but my summer squash doesn't run like cantaloupe vines do.

SoCalGardens
June 19th, 2010, 03:12 PM
Some photos of the fruit that has set on. Some of these I know, some I don't. I will put numbers to aid in the discussion.

1. Some kind of melon, honeydew perhaps. Only melons I planted were Crane's.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714660619/?eOrig=4715284798

2. Looks like spaghetti squash to me. Not that I planted any spaghetti.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714668441/?eOrig=4714644273

3. I have no idea here. Could be a Tuscan Cantaloupe. Could be a cross.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4715284712/

4. Looks like an acorn. Of course I didn't plant acorn, but what the heck.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714644203/in/photostream/

5. I had a number of these weird spaghetti/kabocha/acorn crosses come in last year that looked just like this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714644173/in/photostream/

6. Coloration looks like kabocha, but shape is a little too spherical.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714644143/in/photostream/

7. At last these look like kabocha.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714644113/in/photostream/

Anyone want to send me a pm on how to get the photos to actually show up in the post, feel free. I would appreciate it.

klorentz
June 19th, 2010, 03:26 PM
The first pic(the one with the big bloom on the end of fruit) is a Kabocha.The others are most likely a type of melon.


Kevin

TXDirtDog
June 19th, 2010, 03:30 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4714660619_d41e3fd0d4.jpg

SoCalGardens: Bring up the image on the flickr site by clicking your link you put in your post. Right click on the image to bring up properties. Highlight the address, right click and select "copy". Then in your post on here, type: "". Then right click and select "paste". Then type: ". No spaces in between the initial the address and the ending.

You can use notepad to copy several addresses of the various images while you are looking at flickr, and then copy from the individual addresses in notepad rather than back and forth between flickr and idig.

Good luck.

SoCalGardens
June 19th, 2010, 03:32 PM
The first pic(the one with the big bloom on the end of fruit) is a Kabocha.The others are most likely a type of melon.


Kevin

Not sure what you mean by "the first one." Which number?

SoCalGardens
June 19th, 2010, 03:34 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4714660619_d41e3fd0d4.jpg

SoCalGardens: Bring up the image on the flickr site by clicking your link you put in your post. Right click on the image to bring up properties. Highlight the address, right click and select "copy". Then in your post on here, type: "". Then right click and select "paste". Then type: ". No spaces in between the initial the address and the ending.

You can use notepad to copy several addresses of the various images while you are looking at flickr, and then copy from the individual addresses in notepad rather than back and forth between flickr and idig.

Good luck.

Well that is frustrating, because that is what I did. I wonder if using Google's Chrome as a browser affects this.

TXDirtDog
June 19th, 2010, 03:39 PM
I don't have any experience with chrome, but I wouldn't think a browser would affect ability to create links. I could most definately be wrong tho....

Note: I initially tried to just get address copied by highlighting your link in the idig post. It did not work, just showed a box with an X in it. I had to actually click your idig post link and open the flickr image in a new window, then right click on the flickr image to be able to highlight the address, which is a little different than the address the link in the post shows.

Would you like me to do this for the other images in your post for others to see for reference in the thread?

TXDirtDog
June 19th, 2010, 03:46 PM
Btw, image #2 that you are calling spaghetti: All spaghetti I have ever seen growing vines out more like pumpkin vines or Butternut vines. Can't tell for sure from the pic, but it looks more of a bush type of plant, more like a summer squash or zuchinni would do. Doesn't mean someone hasn't created a bush type spaghetti, I just haven't seen one.

image #4 that you say looks like an acorn. Is the fruit kind of flat from the side view? If so, it may be some kind of patty-pan squash. Again can't tell from the top view.

Hope this helps.

SoCalGardens
June 19th, 2010, 03:48 PM
When I right click the image, I don't get an address (directly, at least. I can get to the page code, but then I have to sift through a bunch of stuff to get an addy).

It would be nice to have the photos in the thread but at this point, I think anyone who looks will be following the links, unless I can figure out how to do it and edit my original post.

klorentz
June 19th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Not sure what you mean by "the first one." Which number?


This one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4675835536/

Kevin

TXDirtDog
June 19th, 2010, 03:57 PM
Wow, I guess the browser does make the difference. When looking at your flickr image, and right clicking on it, I get a pop-up box that shows several choices. The one at the bottom of the box is "properties", and if I left click that, then another pop-up box that shows things like jpeg, image size, address, etc. I then could highlight the address, right click and select copy.

Sorry I couldn't help you get the images shown.:(

SoCalGardens
June 19th, 2010, 04:22 PM
The first pic(the one with the big bloom on the end of fruit) is a Kabocha.The others are most likely a type of melon.


Kevin

That one became this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimperkins/4714644113/in/photostream/

a couple of weeks later.