nais national animal identifacation system

[chiledoug]

this may be old news but i just heard of it on coast-to-coastam with george noory. more info at nonais.org. (www.nonais.org) its just a little bit scary!!!! check it out and let everyone know what you think????

[PhilosopherStorm]

All in the name of "security" and "safety"... :rolleyes:

What is so wrong with leaving people alone to live peacefully? Yes this sort of legislation needs to be stopped.

[Timeless Rogue]

Well, my friends, this and a number of other issues are the toes on the proverbial foot-in-the-door and it's only the beginning. Yes, it needs to be stopped ...

[redbrick]

Notice in advance: the following view is patently and unapologetically Christian in nature.
That being said, this reminds me of a prophecy from the book of Revelations. "Also, it (the beast) causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six." Rev.14: 16-18
Pretty scary when you realize that was the written version of a vision from two thousand years ago. The things and assumptions we are familiar with today were unimaginable then.
No, I don't KNOW that this is what John saw and spoke of, but it certainly seems to match. Yes, they're working with animals now, but don't they always test on animals first? Also, keep in mind that the financial institutions have been trying to push debit card style microchip implant technology for several years now.
On the whole, I find this trend very disturbing.

[zebraman]

Hey Guys;Keep up on the News.They,Companies are already iplanting Chips under the skin of employees which is voluntary.It is used mostly by Software Co.s.They refer to it as "Tagging".George Noory's show "Coast to Coast" is mainly entertainment with Alien and Bigfoot sightings.Consider the source.-

[Timeless Rogue]

Hmmm ... at just this moment, I AM considering the source ...

[chiledoug]

Did you visit the link???? I know C-TO-C is a lot of entertainment but.....i did hear about it on the sat morn farm show(heavily spons by large agribusines). It is set to be implemented by 09. I plan on doing more reasearch.
PEACE CHILEDOUG
by the way thanks for your imput!!!

[Timeless Rogue]

No, ChileDoug ... I meant the other 'source', not you ...

And actually, I'm at the site you mentioned as we 'speak' ... interesting, to say the least ...

[chiledoug]

misunderstood thanks Russ...

[Timeless Rogue]

Sure, no prob ChileDoug ... just some of the 'civility' we've been discussing of late. And thanks again for the site address. While I'm not currently in a position to be directly effected by this whole thing, these sorts of things usually end up being, like I said earlier, the 'foot in the door' which should give us all an interest in staying informed.

[meghaninmissouri]

There will be a no NAIS rally in Jefferson City, Missouri, April 18th, 9 a.m-noon, at the Capitol Rotunda, you can read more about it on nonais.org. Hope you can make it!

[chiledoug]

thanks for the info moving to Mo. on the 23 wont be able to come wish i could be there this is really important!!!!!!!!!!

[AShadyElm]

I live in Wisconsin and we are the first state to implement the mandatory Premise ID program which is the first phase of the National Animal ID program. Last November we were required (with the threat of a $5000 fine) to register any premise that had any (even one) of the listed species of animal. Although we did register, since we can't afford a $5000 fine and at the time didn't really have all the details as to where this was going, we definitely are working to do what we can to stop this program or to at the very least include an opt-out option (currently there is no opt-out - how's that for freedom). The www.nonais.org website has lots of good information and you can also go to the USDA's website:(http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml) to see what their plans actually are. Of course their language is all about "safety, security, etc" but read it very carefully and really think through the implications this has on farmers and consumers alike. I wish I could say that most of the hype on this was fiction but the USDA is pretty serious about tagging EVERY livestock animal in the US. Just a little bit too freaky for me. Educate yourself on the issue and try to get the word out about how bad this program is for everyone! Thanks.

[tashak]

Any one have the "listed species" of animals? It would make an effective poster or handout.

[AShadyElm]

This is the list from the Wisconsin's Premise ID website:

"Livestock," as defined by the WI Premises Registration Act Rules

Includes:

· bovine (bison, cattle)
· equine (horses, donkeys, mules)
· goats
· poultry (chickens, turkeys, geese, ducks, guinea fowl, and squab)
· captive game birds (pheasants, quail, wild turkeys, migratory wildfowl, pigeons, and exotic birds,)
· sheep
· swine (other than wild hogs but including pot belly pigs)
· farm raised deer (elk, moose, caribou, reindeer, and the subfamily musk deer)
· camelids (llamas, alpacas)
· ratites (rheas, ostriches, emu, cassowary, kiwi)
· fish (aquaculture farm)

Not included:

· Rabbits
· Dogs
· Cats

The USDA's website for NAIS says:

Currently, working groups comprised of industry and government representatives are developing plans for cattle, swine, sheep, goats, horses, poultry, bison, deer, elk, llamas, and alpacas.


Hope that helps. If you want more info, check out the sites listed in my previous post. :)

[tashak]

Thanks.
Looks like it covers everything except alligators and guinea pigs (hope I'm not giving Them ideas).
Picked up postcards with stamps at post office today to write my legislators and local paper about this.
Enough to make one turn (ugh) totally vegetarian--talk about increasing the costs of our food budgets.
My next step (after getting funds) will be to photocopy some of the NoNAIS posters--already have the thumbtacks to put them up.

[tashak]

Amazing that the govt. exempts itself--guess they figure the hunting license covers them--know some folk in your state and others depend on wild game for winter larder.