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JereGettle
May 25th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Revealed: health fears over secret study into GM food
Rats fed GM corn due for sale in Britain developed abnormalities in blood
and kidneys
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
The Independent (London)
22 May 2005

Rats fed on a diet rich in genetically modified corn developed abnormalities
to internal organs and changes to their blood, raising fears that human
health could be affected by eating GM food.

The Independent on Sunday can today reveal details of secret research
carried out by Monsanto, the GM food giant, which shows that rats fed the
modified corn had smaller kidneys and variations in the composition of their
blood.

According to the confidential 1,139-page report, these health problems were
absent from another batch of rodents fed non-GM food as part of the research
project.

The disclosures come as European countries, including Britain, prepare to
vote on whether the GM-modified corn should go on sale to the public. A vote
last week by the European Union failed to secure agreement over whether the
product should be sold here, after Britain and nine other countries voted in
favour.

However, the disclosure of the health effects on the Monsanto rats has
intensified the row over whether the corn is safe to eat without further
research. Doctors said the changes in the blood of the rodents could
indicate that the rat's immune system had been damaged or that a disorder
such as a tumour had grown and the system was mobilising to fight it.

Dr Vyvyan Howard, a senior lecturer on human anatomy and cell biology at
Liverpool University, called for the publication of the full study, saying
the summary gave "prima facie cause for concern".

Dr Michael Antoniu, an expert in molecular genetics at Guy's Hospital
Medical School, described the findings as "very worrying from a medical
point of view", adding: "I have been amazed at the number of significant
differences they found [in the rat experiment]."

Although Monsanto last night dismissed the abnormalities in rats as
meaningless and due to chance, reflecting normal variations between rats, a
senior British government source said ministers were so worried by the
findings that they had called for further information.

Environmentalists will see the findings as vindication of British research
seven years ago, which suggested that rats that ate GM potatoes suffered
damage to their health. That research, which was roundly denounced by
ministers and the British scientific establishment, was halted and Dr Arpad
Pusztai, the scientist behind the controversial findings, was forced into
retirement amid a huge row over the claim.

Dr Pusztai reported a "huge list of significant differences" between rats
fed GM and conventional corn, saying the results strongly indicate that
eating significant amounts of it can damage health. The new study is into a
corn, codenamed MON 863, which has been modified by Monsanto to protect
itself against corn rootworm, which the company describes as "one of the
most pernicious pests affecting maize crops around the world".

Now, however, any decision to allow the corn to be marketed in the UK will
cause widespread alarm. The full details of the rat research are included in
the main report, which Monsanto refuses to release on the grounds that "it
contains confidential business information which could be of commercial use
to our competitors".

A Monsanto spokesman said yesterday: "If any such well-known anti-biotech
critics had doubts about the credibility of these studies they should have
raised them with the regulators. After all, MON 863 isn't new, having been
approved to be as safe as conventional maize by nine other global
authorities since 2003."

daniel@ozarkforest
May 25th, 2005, 08:08 PM
How can Monsanto be pressured to release this report?

Horsea
May 26th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Is this ever interesting, in a bad way. Well, in a couple of days I am going to plant some Painted Mountain field corn for the chickens, and old shoepeg corn & golden bantam for us. Yah!

johnl
May 26th, 2005, 02:38 PM
I called Budweiser a minute ago and they verified that they have changed their stand on the rice issue. They said they want to remain neutral on GMO.
John L.

Sliver
May 27th, 2005, 09:20 PM
The Wall Street Journal reported that 89% of all soybeans and 51% of all corn seeds have a Monsanto gene. How do you determine if a seed has been genetically modified?

camochef
February 10th, 2008, 10:38 PM
Do nine wrongs make it right?
what was the outcome? are we all doomed?
goin' down the road feelin bad...bad...bad, don't think we should be treated this-a-way.
Camo

winter_unfazed
February 12th, 2008, 11:02 AM
The Wall Street Journal reported that 89% of all soybeans and 51% of all corn seeds have a Monsanto gene. How do you determine if a seed has been genetically modified?

By the variety name, and by getting your seeds from a GMO-free tested source. Seed houses who don't want anything to do with GMO's can get their seed tested by Genetic ID Labs and some other, smaller labs that offer the service.

Eric
February 12th, 2008, 08:52 PM
The Wall Street Journal reported that 89% of all soybeans and 51% of all corn seeds have a Monsanto gene. How do you determine if a seed has been genetically modified?

Easy, you examine the corn and compare it to the corn genes that Monsanto own. And by you I mean some modern genetics lab, you and I could only rule it out if it were an obvious different variety.

Ohiorganic
February 13th, 2008, 06:04 AM
But it is getting harder and harder to find 100% GMO free corn or soy. Even the organic stuff has tolerances of .5% IIRC (it might be 1%). I have tried growing out soy and corn for seed in SW Ohio farm country where 90%+ of the crops grown here are GMO.

Everytime I tried saving soybean seed it was obviously contaminated with GMO as the flowers were blue just like the GMO soy grown 50m away. The soy I was trying breed had pink flowers. I did not test the crops as testing costs thousands of dollars I do not have. So instead I composted the seeds to be safe.

I now live in a place where breeding GMO free corn and soy would be possible but now I have almost zero interest in soy and low interest in corn (though flour corns are still interesting to me).

bunkie
February 13th, 2008, 10:22 AM
Do nine wrongs make it right?
what was the outcome? are we all doomed?
goin' down the road feelin bad...bad...bad, don't think we should be treated this-a-way.
Camo

'...It takes a ten-dollar shoe to fit my feet...Your a-two-dollar shoe hurts my feet...An’ I ain’t a-gonna be treated this way........'

jere, that article was written almost three years ago. what's up since then? i googled and can't find anyting more recent on it?! peace, bunkie.

HOD
February 13th, 2008, 08:54 PM
Everytime I tried saving soybean seed it was obviously contaminated with GMO as the flowers were blue just like the GMO soy grown 50m away. The soy I was trying breed had pink flowers. I did not test the crops as testing costs thousands of dollars I do not have. So instead I composted the seeds to be safe.



Why don't you try again with some soil amendments / changes. Add more lime, and see if the flower color is related to the pH of the soil. you know, like hydrangea flowers change color based on acid/alkaline of the soil. Maybe your soybeans are doing the same thing.

That would be my first guess, anyway... But I might be wrong.


Hod

kimpossible
February 14th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Monsanto last night dismissed the abnormalities in rats as
meaningless and due to chance, reflecting normal variations between rats


Well, if the abnormalities are so meaningless, I think they should feed that corn to the Executive Rats at Monsanto, and see what normal variations they come up with in their blood...

hort stu
February 14th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Don't count on genetic test to ID GM genes in home made seed. Not only is it expensive but I'm fairly certain that the genomes of these plants have not been entirely mapped.

Plus for every gene that a biotech tries to get through the FDA you can bet <--the rent-->that there are dozens of others that have gone through outdoor trials and didn't cut the mustard and we will never hear about them... that doesn't mean they didn't make it into the environment and still persist somewhere today.

Ohiorganic
February 14th, 2008, 05:31 AM
Why don't you try again with some soil amendments / changes. Add more lime, and see if the flower color is related to the pH of the soil. you know, like hydrangea flowers change color based on acid/alkaline of the soil. Maybe your soybeans are doing the same thing.

That would be my first guess, anyway... But I might be wrong.


Hod

I am basing the contamination on the fact the GMO beans 50' away had blue flowers and when the next year the soy beans I saved had blue flowers I assumed they has crossed with the GMO beans.

So I don't think it was soil pH as all the beans were in essentially the same soil (crosby silt loam IIRC). I also don't believe soy and hydrangeas react the same way to pH:rolleyes: