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Petitions for Redress of Grievances.
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http://www.givemeliberty.org/revolution/#revSignPet
At this website are 7 petitions regarding a variety of grievances many people have against Congress.. "Plan Overview: Click on any step below to jump ahead: A. Sign the Petitions B. Serve the Petitions: June 30 C. Bring Federal Litigation: July 11 D. Protests: Hungering to Secure Redress: Begins August 11 We welcome your Comments Details below: A. Sign the Petitions First, a quick review: The Petitions for Redress of Grievances are NOT merely an exercise in free speech conveying statements of political discontent from the People. First Amendment Petitions for Redress constitute formal, legal Notice to our Government that it has violated the Constitution by either trespassing outside the strictly limited authorities delegated it by the consent of the People or because it has otherwise infringed upon the fundamental Rights of the Sovereign People. Petitions for Redress are LEGAL DEMANDS to cure Constitutional torts against the People. As a creation and servant of the People, the Government is obligated by the Rule of law, the Constitution, and Nature herself to yield and present substantive Redress. The Right of the People to peacefully secure Redress through the exercise and enforcement of the Right of Petition is the Constitutional instrument by which the People enjoy, and orderly maintain, their Popular Sovereignty. This 800-year old Fundamental Right was first articulated in written law as Section 61 of the Magna Carta in 1215. It remains in force today as a cornerstone in the Rule of Law as the last ten words of the First Amendment. The WTP Foundation has put forth (7) Petitions for Redress of Grievances. The subject violations include: the un-declared Iraq war, the unconstitutional, privately owned Federal Reserve and fiat "dollar"; the imposition of constitutionally prohibited direct, un-apportioned slave taxes upon American labor; the gross infringements upon the 4th Amendment Privacy and 5th Amendment Due Process Rights resulting from the "USA PATRIOT Act"; the President's failure to enforce the Immigration laws of the nation; the unconstitutional de facto adoption of the "North American Union"; and the unconstitutional infringements upon the 2nd Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms depriving the People the practical means, if necessary, to exercise their Right to Abolish their government and replace it with a new institution as they may deem necessary for their Safety & Happiness. We need to send an unequivocal message to Washington: The People will no longer tolerate the insolence of our servant Government or tolerate its continuing and systemic deprivation of the People's Fundamental Rights. We will exercise all non-violent means to secure our Rights, including the Right to Retain our Money to secure Redress. We need 1,000,000 Americans to sign these Petitions before June 30. SIGN HERE" More... at website..
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Retired, sir. Retired.
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Interesting site, gma. Are they legit, or just another loony left wing blog?
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or a right wing catch site to get a list of 'terrorist lovers'
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, Tug, that's exactly what I thought when I read that. "Sign right up, right here so we will know who the dissenters are; it will save time 'later'." I'm getting way tooooooo cynical. |
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or not....
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Here is a link to their "about us" page. They sound like a viable group to me, but everyone has to make that decision for themselves.
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I hadn't thought of that.. guess I will do some more reading about them before I join or sign their petitions.
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Retired, sir. Retired.
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I'll be looking forward to hearing what you find out, gma!
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Looks like they are a somewhat radical group. They are in trouble, apparently, for distributing WTP’s "instructive" forms challenging the Government’s (alleged) authority to force companies to withhold pay from worker’s paychecks.
The order of U.S. District Court Judge McAvoy not only bans the further distribution of the forms but orders WTP to turn over to the Government the identities of a small number of identifiable individuals who had specifically requested that a copy of the educational materials be mailed from WTP. ![]() So, I guess maybe citizens should, indeed, be concerned about signing their petitions, as someone seems to disapprove of what they are doing. Things are much, much different now than they used to be, that's for sure. |
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Bob Schulz is founder of We the People. It appears he mostly has fought against the IRS.. He is a Libertarian..so it appears he is right wing not left. ![]() I have heard of him as many people probably have and I agree with him on the IRS. I guess whether or not we get involved with his petitions would be a personal choice based on our beliefs about these issues and our fears about getting into trouble..
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, Tug, that's exactly what I thought when I read that. "Sign right up, right here so we will know who the dissenters are; it will save time 'later'."

